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Water Angel · May 16, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51

ok will be 3 weeks now im observing same thing.

people farm lb and ss points in hardmode outside sahladja using a show of force quest.

i did mine long ago when beat nf just as it was out before people even start farm them.

i see 20 people + all time in sahladja doing this runs, but when ask if someone doing it and cud take me no answer...or get called of noob cus dun have quest or be say to stfu..

ok people you think i moan, some another unhappy noob? i play since beta, all caracters past all campaigns and most have maxed titles.so in how im noob askin someoen pick me cus one caracter did quest?

the point is : FOR GOD SAKE ITS A MULTI PLAYER GAME ! if you want play alone with hench go back to d2 single mode play or nwn.i udnerstand some ppl dotn cus afraid of noobs in mission..but here we talk about FARMING..

you/people go farm with 8 hench..ok what it would cost you replace oen of hench by a human for help him?nothing.cept no one care everyone in his lil buisness and play for his own butt.no excuses.

will take a human instead the 8th hench make you win less points?get worse drops?make sick?die?NO.

so for god sake people stop freakin be so egoist and imbued of yourself.its a mmorpg and if anet wanted to people play only with hench they would make it liek that.

stop be egoist people and learn to play.you're not alone in life nor in this world.and if everyone was doing liek that you still would be all crying in any harder mission.

majoho · May 16, 2007, 11:53 AM // 11:53

Actually you are free to play the game as you want.

Wtf Its A Monk · May 16, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

ok people you think i moan, some another unhappy noob? i play since beta, all caracters past all campaigns and most have maxed titles.so in how im noob askin someoen pick me cus one caracter did quest?

Fist of all your grammar and spelling ability is atrocious. Second of all, we have heroes. Therefore, people have the ability to do things alone. If you don't like it get in a guild with people who will do the quests and missions with you. Lastly, please do not make anymore of these "I have no friends to help me do quests so remember this is multiplayer game and you should be forced to take me with you" threads

For the fun of it I think I will try to correct the last sentence in his post to make it more readable.

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

stop be egoist people and learn to play.you're not alone in life nor in this world.and if everyone was doing liek that you still would be all crying in any harder mission.

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People need to stop being so egotistical and learn to play. You're not the only one in the world. If everyone was playing alone then you would be crying in the harder missions where PUG groups may be needed.

That sentence pretty much sums it up for me as he said himself he is "some another unhappy noob"

Water Angel · May 16, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00

yes..and if everyone was following same mentality as these people the overcrowded service forum would be empty.no mission completion service,no chest runin, no runners, nothing.how many people would bother then bring all caracters though al lchapters,or do it by themselve?doubt as many would keep play.
look how many ask/asked for services like that( help in hard mission, chests,etc etc etc).what if no one was providing them but only focusing on himself?gg.

shrouded^god · May 16, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Actually...I spend 75% of my time solo...the other 15% is doing HA with my guild...and 10% doing a little AB.

And on that note 99% of the players think they're better than you, know more than you, have been playing longer than you, etc. I dont want to deal with one of these people in my party just to do a mission...And honestly, when i do the Farm outside Sahladja, I used to bring a long a guildie...which I even stopped doing just for the fact that when i turn to move to the next group...he was still behind. I prefer to move fast when farming anything...and I hate waiting on others...so I have my reasons for not inviting randoms to go farm with me....or actually...to do anything with me.

Brother Andicus · May 16, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

Whilever the masses continue to suck, i'm continue to use henchmen

Water Angel · May 16, 2007, 12:06 PM // 12:06

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Originally Posted by Wtf Its A Monk

Fist of all your grammar and spelling ability is atrocious. Second of all, we have heroes. Therefore, people have the ability to do things alone. If you don't like it get in a guild with people who will do the quests and missions with you. Lastly, please do not make anymore of these "I have no friends to help me do quests so remember this is multiplayer game and you should be forced to take me with you" threads

yes i admit i suck at english.

but where you seen the *i have no friends for do quests with me?*

if i had quest active i would do it alone and wouldent need help.and i dont need help for do the quest.i just need someoenr with quest active so can do it.did i say i cant do it ?than i need help for complete it or cus im too retarded for farm?
no i can perfectly do it, just need it be active.dont confuse people who cant do somethign cus too noob for it and ask for help and people who cant do it cus other reasons liek a already done quest.

good instance : a easy mission, you know how to do but for instance have pre searing armor and 2 spells on bar.does it make you a noob?you know how complete it, know what to do but will neva be able complete it with 0 armor and 2 skills.its the same here.dont confuse.

and shrouded : if you see someone with r10 spear marshal rank 7 lighbringer asking for group don tell me you afraid he gonna retard you or else...r1-r0 askin for it r10 r7 not the same mate..dont you think.

Hyper.nl · May 16, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

The best thing of GuildWars is that you can actually decide yourself if you want to do it in singleplayer or multiplayer. For many including me it's nice to do a lot in single player where you don't have to worry about having a popular build, hurry up, leavers and where you also are able to take your time to do some things that just would annoy others. (Exploring, farming, cartographing etc)

Even for the (mostly) single player gamer it's nice to have a guild, chat and sometimes do some things together. These are things you won't find in games like Doom.

Water Angel · May 16, 2007, 12:16 PM // 12:16

yes hyper i agree.many leavers, afkers, leechers, make doubt people of the pug.but people cant generalise.
but liek you said you enjoy talk in guild chat,friends etc.

so dun tell me people you prefer spend 6 hours farmin with hench and no one for say a word than at last one human.

and if the person is higer rank than you are yourself say u afraid he noob is ironic and be fake to the bits

LONGA · May 16, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53

I dobut people will be good enough for questing/farming since too many factors to deal with.One might just want to finish the quest,other might want to capt the boss along the way,looking for chest,etc.
From the last month I play misson with PUG I have seen 2 people AFK for very long without a reason untill the misson almost finish and they are back saying that thier dog bite theor leg, cat jumping on thier mouse.
Most misson usually around 10-20 minutes. 10 minutes when the team go wrong was enough frustation for most people.Which include me.

Cebe · May 16, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00

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Originally Posted by Wtf Its A Monk

Fist of all your grammar and spelling ability is atrocious.

Percy detects a hint of irony.

On Topic: I'll admit I usually prefer to play with close friends or heroes/hench but occaisionally I do get the urge to play with a PuG. Sometimes they're not all bad and the few spectacularly good ones you can get into make it well worth doing sometimes. If I'm in a more adventurous mood I'll get in a really bad looking PuG for an awkward mission just to see how things pan out. Team Chat can get pretty funny.

Havoc of PhoeniX · May 16, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

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Originally Posted by Wtf Its A Monk

Fist of all your grammar and spelling ability is atrocious.

Sorry, i just had to.

Edit: Bleh Beat me :P

Wtf Its A Monk · May 16, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

but where you seen the *i have no friends for do quests with me?*

If you had a good amount of friends or were in a helpful guild I'm sure that at least one person you knew would have that quest and be willing to go through it with you. That is where the idea that you have no friends to do the quest comes from because if you did then you wouldn't be on this forum complaining that people wont take you because you want a PUG. As for why I was so mean with all of my comments it probably has a lot to do with the fact I am in school right now and that there has been a lot of threads like this as of late. I would lean more towards the school part. *hates school*

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Originally Posted by Wtf Its A Monk

Fist of all your grammar and spelling ability is atrocious.

Percy detects a hint of irony.

Lolz I pwned myself

Etta · May 16, 2007, 01:16 PM // 13:16

I play this game muti-player most of the time, with my girlfriend and other guildies. If we can't get a full human team, we just fill the empty slot with heroes. But sometime I rather go by myself with AI when I want things done fast.

PUGS will always let me down most of the time. I can understand why you're angry but you can't really force other to play it your way. Try joining a good pve guild, there are lot of PVE EU guilds out there. As for your english, don't worry about it. You english is way better than my french.

Corinthian · May 16, 2007, 01:18 PM // 13:18

I'd rather not see an elemental sword drop to a henchman than see an elemental sword drop to a player. It just twists my heart so badly. Thus I play only with heroes and henchies.

zwei2stein · May 16, 2007, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

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No other player is supposed to be your "quest slave". Multiplayer != everyone being at your disposal to help you.

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

and shrouded : if you see someone with r10 spear marshal rank 7 lighbringer asking for group don tell me you afraid he gonna retard you or else...r1-r0 askin for it r10 r7 not the same mate..dont you think.

Title != not being retard. I know enough koabds that are clueless about game that its not funny.

it is eactly same thing, higher epeen number does not really make you look better, you could have afked LB title when exploit was avaiable, and you are now unable to afk it and are culeless about actually getting it throught gameplay (best way to get LB points is trapping in hard mode doa, btw).

r1-0 asking for it is actually better as that player is usually looking for fast way to get lightbringer skills, so helping that guy is investment in quality of pugs. helping r7 is pointless, he does not really need it.

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

will take a human instead the 8th hench make you win less points?get worse drops?make sick?die?NO.

YES.

Human is complication, he will agrue about best path, will go too slow or too fast, will not focus fire, will take time ot pick drops or open chests and thus lag behing, will take time to sell stuff at merch, etc, etc, etc.

All this translates to slower runs and less sunspear points per hour.

yuu also hinder other human - you gotta take break, want to answer im, etc etc ... slowing run for other people unnecesarily.

Div · May 16, 2007, 01:24 PM // 13:24

Can't never trust pugs. One bad player and it'll mess up the entire group. When doing easy farming trips like that, it's just not worth the risk in taking someone who doesn't know what they're doing to slow them down. It's a shame, but that's reality. You're not his guildie, not his friend, so why should he spend his time helping you?

freekedoutfish · May 16, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

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i see 20 people + all time in sahladja doing this runs, but when ask if someone doing it and cud take me no answer...or get called of noob cus dun have quest or be say to stfu...

So your pissed off because no one would run you somewhere? or your pissed off because no one would let you join their farming party?

If you were annoyed that you couldnt find a MISSION or QUEST pug then I might have some sympathy for you. But you seem more bothered that your unable find a farming team or someone to run you somewhere.

Hm..... oh yes, I dont care!

People can play this game how-ever they want. People are under no obligation to play with humans at all. You have NO right to complain if a farming team doesnt want to invite you.

They might have their reasons. They might have a perfectly formed farming team, which they have specificly designed for that area.

The only time you have a right to complain is if someone invites you to a PUG and then kicks you for no reason, or if a player is rude to you.

Otherwise, your thread is completely unfounded. You cant complain just because someone does want you in their team. Are you scared to use henches or heroes?

Roshi_ikkyu · May 16, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

Guess what I play 95% of my GW time SOLO!

Yeah take it, you know you want it! And I'm gonna share a secret with you.

After reading this thread I'm going to spend 95% of my GW time SOLO farming! Yep and not even stuff that sells, I'm gonna farm charr carvings!

Commander Ryker · May 16, 2007, 01:46 PM // 13:46

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Originally Posted by Wtf Its A Monk

Fist of all your grammar and spelling ability is atrocious.

First of all, he's from France so I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that English is not his first language. Considering that, I'd say that he did very well, better then a lot of the posters who are American. How well do you speak/write french?

Next time, look to see where someone is from before you condem their spelling and grammer.